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		<title>Ministry vs. Group</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last night while sitting on the porch swing watching my youngest son get his Bamm Bamm on with a plastic bat and big bouncy ball, I read a good portion of Mike King&#8216;s Presence-centered Youth Ministry:Â  Guiding Students into Spiritual Formation.Â  I&#8217;m gearing up to facilitate a special track for the high school graduates at [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night while sitting on the porch swing watching my youngest son get his <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bamm-Bamm_Rubble">Bamm Bamm</a> on with a plastic bat and big bouncy ball, I read a good portion of <a href="http://king.typepad.com/mike_king/">Mike King</a>&#8216;s <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Presence-centered-Youth-Ministry-Spiritual-Formation/dp/0830833838">Presence-centered Youth Ministry:Â  Guiding Students into Spiritual Formation</a>.Â  I&#8217;m gearing up to facilitate a special track for the high school graduates at our <a href="http://www.twinrocks.org/programs/surfside-camp.asp">regional Quaker high school camp</a>.Â  The title of Mike&#8217;s book hits right where my spirit thinks we should be heading:Â  creating space for grads to question, reflect, explore their identity rooted in Christ, and dream of the future.Â  And have fun:Â  but I&#8217;ll let the other staff people head that part up.Â  <img src='http://www.ajschwanz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Mike&#8217;s take on youth ministry (and ministry in general) has had a *significant* shift over the years.Â  Currently he worships at <a href="http://jacobswellchurch.org/">Jacob&#8217;s Well</a> where he says they have a youth ministry, but not a youth group per se.Â  The youth are very much a part of the congregation, not segregated to the youth room.Â  Some people work more with the youth, but it sounds like the congregation is more integrated through mentoring, walking alongside a specific youth for a time.Â  And the youth walk alongside the adults as the gathering worships together and shares the light of Christ in their daily lives and neighborhoods.</p>
<p>In my history of being part of faith communities I realized that those who are &#8220;group&#8221;-oriented seem more clubish, more &#8220;come in, be one of us&#8221;, more fractured, more self-interested.Â  Those that were &#8220;ministry&#8221;-0riented thought of the bigger picture, had more awareness of the each other, practiced more over-arching hospitality.Â  And in my faith gathering we have many ministries, but not a lot of groups &#8230; but the places where there are groups, we seem to have more lack of communication and conflict with each other &#8230;</p>
<p>My boys are part of the childrens&#8217; *ministry*, but once they become teens, they&#8217;ll be part of a youth *group*.Â  This is not to say that youth leaders are not needed, but when one is known as The Youth Pastor, one seems to shoulder all the responsibility of those in that age group.Â  I&#8217;m sure different pastors would say different things regarding other being involved, but my observation has been &#8220;I&#8217;ll volunteer with the kids, but once they&#8217;re teens, they&#8217;ll go off their merry way:Â  it&#8217;s what they want, after all, because we aren&#8217;t communicating well, and I&#8217;d love a break.&#8221;</p>
<p>I wonder where other &#8220;group&#8221; mentalities take place:Â  perhaps with seniors?Â  &#8220;Well, this way they can sing songs they like and talk about things important to them:Â  they&#8217;re happier off over there in their Group.&#8221;Â  Perhaps recovery programs?Â  &#8220;Oh, they wouldn&#8217;t want to talk to me:Â  I don&#8217;t understand their experience, and I&#8217;d probably say something stupid anyway.&#8221;Â  Ethnic groups?Â  Etc &#8230;</p>
<p>I love being part of the women&#8217;s ministry at NFC, but if I knew if was a &#8220;group&#8221;, honestly I&#8217;d pack up my knitting needles and head elsewhere:Â  I refuse to be segregated.Â  Integration would be wonderful, but methinks that requires some humbleness and vulnerability and risk of rejection and practice of hospitality:Â  not necessarily easily-taken postures, but oh so worth it.</p>
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		<title>Could I get a Venti Sugar-Free Vanilla Decaf Americano with that &#8220;Tale of Two Cities&#8221;?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2005 21:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Aj</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[How cool is this? Some high school libraries are taking after Borders and other book retailers by serving up the java to create a &#8220;studing/coffee house&#8221; atmosphere. They recognize that students enjoy going to their local coffee shop, that it&#8217;s a great place to study and engage other folks. I think I stepped foot in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How cool is <a href="http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/091605dnccocoffee.1c8580c4.html">this</a>?  Some high school libraries are taking after Borders and other book retailers by serving up the java to create a &#8220;studing/coffee house&#8221; atmosphere.  They recognize that students enjoy going to their local coffee shop, that it&#8217;s a great place to study and engage other folks.  I think I stepped foot in my high school library once a year, usually because my teachers made me.  And I *like* libraries:  so what does that say when a bibilophile won&#8217;t come near one?  </p>
<p>The crux of the article is to warn against allowing students to have such easy access to caffeine, but it&#8217;s not as if Starbucks isn&#8217;t on every corner of the street in Anytown, U.S.A.  I understand their worries, but look at the positives:  students might actually use the library to study &#8211; to ask for help rather than go to shady resources &#8211; to learn how to become lifelong, self-motivated learners.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had some quality encounters with Christ in coffeeshops &#8211; taking my journal, a good book, watching other folks converse and engage with each other, looking out the window at the traffic, smelling the coffee and fresh baked scones, watching kids play with the heavily-drooled on toys, seeing friends come and go . . . .  What&#8217;s so appealing about it?  When I lived in Boise, I would often spend my Sunday mornings at a coffee shop of my own choosing depending on my mood (Starbucks if I was lazy, Flying M if I was feeling artsy-fartsy) &#8211; why did I feel like I engaged Christ more really, more authentically there than at my church?</p>
<p>With a library, the users usually need to go to the library to get full access to the wealth of materials and aid:  true, there&#8217;s online reference people and online holds and the bookmobile, but generally folks have to go to the library.  I&#8217;ve been hearing about how the church should be missional &#8211; should go out to people rather than have them come to the building/ministry.  Are there cases, though, that it&#8217;d be best to have people come to the church, something need that can best be met or resources that are best used by coming <em>to</em> the church?</p>
<p>Libraries feel the effect of resources readily available on the internet:  their patronage numbers are declining.  But libraries are doing some really radical ways to set themselves apart from doing a google search, ways that brand their sort of assistance, to assist each person individually in assessing their personal needs.  Does the church do this?  Can they?  What would that look like?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tk421.net/librarylink/">HT</a></p>
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		<title>Does this wire go with my backpack?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2005 20:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Aj</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today&#8217;s teen are the first &#8220;totally wired generation&#8221; according to this article. Marketing in authentic ways is hard, particularly when teens know the internet playground better than most advertisers. What ways can the church connect with teens in this web of the wide world? Should the church try, or would it simply be forced, like [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today&#8217;s teen are the first &#8220;totally wired generation&#8221; according to <a href="http://www.marketingvox.com/archives/2005/09/08/todays_kids_teens_first_totally_wired_generation/index.php">this article</a>.  Marketing in authentic ways is hard, particularly when teens know the internet playground better than most advertisers.  What ways can the church connect with teens in this web of the wide world?  Should the church try, or would it simply be forced, like in high school when our moms would pretend to be able to play hacky sack with us (just oh-so-painful to watch)?</p>
<p>One thing to keep in mind:</p>
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&#8220;Instead of pushing content at teens, sites should find ways to let teens have some say in the material,&#8221; Williamson says. &#8220;Giving teens a sense of ownership is a powerful draw.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Have you reached out to teens online?</p>
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		<title>Does Your Youth Group Need a Rabies Shot?</title>
		<link>http://www.ajschwanz.com/2005/08/23/does-your-youth-group-need-a-rabies-shot/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 22:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Aj</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The fatal sin is building our churches and youth ministries around the appetites, desires and wishes of our congregations. At my &#8220;Why Young Adults Don&#8217;t Attend Church&#8221; workshop, a person threw out a concept I&#8217;d pondered but hadn&#8217;t put such eloquent words to. As of late Iíve been recognizing that my high school church experience [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The fatal sin is building our churches and youth ministries around the appetites, desires and wishes of our congregations.</p></blockquote>
<p>At my &#8220;Why Young Adults Don&#8217;t Attend Church&#8221; workshop, a person threw out a concept I&#8217;d pondered but hadn&#8217;t put such eloquent words to.  As of late Iíve been recognizing that my high school church experience was segregated: my friends and I were quarantined to our safe youth-group experience where we were entertained, occasionally we gave back ìif we had to,î and we created a community of folks who were pretty Wonder bread (bland, palatable, nutritious . . .to a degree).  I had some awesome experiences, events and folks who helped shape me into the person that I am today, but it was a pretty self-centered, demanding, consuming experience.  The image I got was that of a rabid dog: theyíre foaming at the mouth to consume, consume, consume: just to bite down on something &#8211; but nothing ever satisfies that mad craving.</p>
<p>The person at my workshop talked about how youth ministry as we know it is dying.  Youth leaders are recognizing that theyíre creating ìfalseî communities &#8211; communities that last only as long as the kids are in school, and then they dissipate, causing the individuals to flounder as they are community-less.  They look to the larger church, but are so used to their self-centered experience that they donít know how to participate. And they mourn for the loss of their community, not knowing how to experience that again.</p>
<p>My mother-in-law sent me <a href="http://www.nph.com/nphweb/html/waol/articleDisplay.jsp?mediaId=2369738&#038;catSecCd=ART10%20&#038;tid=ACCH&#038;tc=1">this article</a>, talking about all this stuff &#8211; again, much more eloquently than I ever could.  </p>
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For years now we have watched as study after study and survey after survey tell us what we already know- those students who graduate out of our professionally led youth ministries struggle to maintain their church ìconnectednessî during their college years. For me it tends to be one of two things: either my graduates end up being ìcling-onsî- graduates who find ways to still hang around the youth ministry &#8211; or they simply disappear a few months into their college careers, and I end up hearing about them after theyíve moved to another church or out of the church altogether.</p></blockquote>
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What happens is that we feed the beast when we leave our teens with the impression that, like everywhere else in the world, they are ìconsumersî who by their consumeristic nature drive the shaping and programming of the church. When we are consumers, then we have the impression that we are or should be in control. We, the consumers; we tell the church how we need it to be. Is it any wonder then, that our little consumers shun the authority of the Church? How much authority can the Church have if the Church does whatever I tell it to do?</p></blockquote>
<p>Oooh, good stuff.  So, what are your thoughts?  Do you see this type of rabid-attitude in your youth?  Have you succumbed to it as well?  How did you become free &#8211; to turn and focus on Christ rather than your self?  </p>
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